These people have no heart or soul. They were obvious page 1 questions, that we didn't hear. Lives which they have a right to protect as well. The WBC certainly havent forgotten the 'good old days' anyway. The ones spouting how much their gods love everyone are all apologetics, including you Charles. I watched and listened to what that old man had to say during his sermon, not once did he read a scripture from the Bible. That's fine. .. Oh, sinner man .. Where you gonna run to? with people who come into our lives. I don' know I LOVE EVERYBODY and I worship MY GOD! ZOA the dough nut I may be dreaming this matter into being. its all about human stupidity. He punishes even those who've done nothing wrong. No I don't... Then I must kill you! .. Oh, sinner man .. Where you gonna run to .. All on that day? What I don't understand is the fact that they actually think they've read the Bible. However, you can't blame God for all the evil in the world; it just happens. When Westboro Baptist Church announced it would protest the German pop star Kim Petras’ concert in Missouri, Petras began planning her clapback. Stay out of our country. Your life style is sending you to hell? We are there if they need us and anyone can receive Communion. I think it is obvious that he would not say, "Do you ever think of going out and looking for a girlfriend?" exposing this keeps it out of the darkness where more innocent people , especially children can be subject to this . THAT is what makes this place a scary world to live in. Let's not blame God for the tragedies that have been foretold are coming. or thinking a bad thought? Well, they better do that "incognito" or they will get their @ss sued off, most of the (WCB) are lawyers! For He will judge us all in the end. These people aren't bad, they actually seem quite nice, but they are all being manipulated into thinking they are right. We still mess up, but He sitll forgives. I actually think I may write up a bill regarding these matters, utilizing time, research, and travel in my spare moments, and actually c.o. For there is no ambiguity in the law of the Lord your God. They twist the question or just talk about irrelevant things. We need not talk of ancient or new religions. "So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. Arrogance: I'm sure they sit around reading comments like ours and revel in the fact that someone, someWHERE is taking the time to notice their unfortunate looking asses. On another note, our God will judge all mankind. I would also recommend the book of Ephesians and the book of Hebrew. The group has achieved national notice because of its picketing of funeral processions of U.S. soldiers killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they really didn't defend their opinions at all. So they may call themselves Christians but they are NOT true followers of Jesus. By your reasoning, the soldiers who died in the line of duty should have their funerals protested for supporting a country condemned by God. I am not gay but I do have gay friends and they are the nicest people I know!! these people exist in a vacuum of hate, and i can't see how it's not child abuse to subject children to that kind of environment. Confident of one's own righteousness, especially when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others. im not a christian, for true religion is in the heart. The NT is an anthology, a collection of various works of 27 gospels, so they settled on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as their word of god, but which god, does not seem like the same god as in the OT, unless he has a split personality, Hmmm? Ooh, I responded just as you though? Why should they? Hopefully they realize one day how damn messed up they all are. Why don't you give us your list. Brilliant example of the dangers of religion. The documentary charts the establishment of the labor... Black Holes. Good stuff. Acting in a way that betrays a feeling of patronizing superiority. I feel sorry for ALL of them BUT HIM. They deserve it, in our private thoughts. "God either wants to eliminate bad things and cannot, or can but does not want to, or neither wishes to nor can, or both wants to and can. The biggest flaw that I can think of is that they believe in Jesus, but why did Jesus come down to Earth to save us and open the gates of Heaven if we were all going to Hell anyways? In fact, they are real people. Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, KS. Is there something you wish to tell us? every time someone says something negative about them they smile and laugh because theyre enjoying it Because it really is just "Darwinism". Peace will come only if one realizes how delicate and amazing life can and will be." And many Christians know that they are sinners too and need to repent every day, that is why Jesus Christ came to help us repent so we can go back into the presence of our Father in Heaven! It's ironic because Jesus never preached hatred or judged people and said they were going to hell. this is such a sad documentary. Children have a right to THEIR beliefs and instincts as well, and these cultish freaks are denying them that right by drilling a message of hate and judgment into their heads 24 hours a day. The 1st time I watched this I didn't see that. It all comes down to "Gramps" he is a fascist, with a lot of hate and a love for power and "respect". he has been trough alot and seeing people like this makes me really sad and angry. You have not commented on that, which was my point. I know of someone very very VERY first hand that used to be gay and is sooooo very very glad that he is not in that lifestyle any longer. This women shows how somebody could pervert the word of the Bible. I'm in the Lord's army. The poor boys, getting hit with drinks because of holding a sign that they DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF! Obviously these people are closet homosexuals! Their conduct is completely unacceptable and a disgrace to actual Christians. . Margaret Briggs, remember in the film when the interviewer asked Fred Phelps, Gramps, how many kids he had and he said it was a silly question because everyone knows how many kids he has. The world really is like a ride at an amusement park. It is so clear, that the world would be a better place without this crazy fundamentalism of the Westboro baptist church. They just cannot take their own 'medicine' or should i say vitriol? I was impacted by something right at the end of the film, when Louis is speaking to the college age girl in the car: She said that she "hopes" that she doesn't go to hell. he does love them and its sad that no one else except their family will be able to know or love them because they put themselves in a personal hell by hating others and not getting to know and love them. Filling these young kids what it heads with c*** is just going to make the just as narrow-minded as everyone else. educated people like (scientists & professor`s & politicians ) do not need "god" to believe in neither do they need religions as they came in piece that death is a natural process's and everything and everyone dies end of story who am I? What a load of crap! They'll probably have to resort to inbreeding to keep the family numbers up, but eventually it has to end unless they recruit more people. Jesus gave Himself willingly. Tee, they are going to ignore them like they are going to ignore that minister in Florida and his Koran burning. We are all somewhat guilty by association in the developed world, but REALLY? So in conclusion, I have seen the vast amount of anger this leader has towards society (and therefore himself and his family), and I have seen them completely obsessional about thoughts on homosexuality, and I have come to the conclusion that there is some abuse going on somewhere. You have no faith. God doesn't hate. Why did he branch off into his own little world? Some have done exactly that. I couldn't agree less with the Phelp's views about God or their hate speeches and the way they are deployed, but I appreciate their right to say it in just the same way I appreciate their victim's right to argue right back. When it comes to the studying of homosexuality in nature the most prodigal studies have to be those collated by Bruce Bagemihl in his book "Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity" (1999). This would have been a good documentary if the reporter wasn't so condescending. Jesus did not answer a word. .. Run to the Lord .. Lord, won't you hide me .. All on that day? I personal think that if I were a part of that I would want to say what my past sins as I guess you would call them would be put into the light and then showed what I did in order to get back in to "gods will", they were very forthcoming with what they thought was wrong with society but they never once mentioned how they felt that people could atone for what they did wrong. What about now? Matthew became one of the 12 prominent disciples. They are preaching the exact opposite of their "faith". how petty is that?? How can we post a message to the world, as these posts are read all over the world, in substandard English with misspelled English, non-existent editing and expect people to understand what we are trying to express? Maybe, it's the romantic side of me. The Church age (now) is an age of grace because those of us like myself who choose to ask have our sins forgiven. these people have forgotten the most important verse that most christians live by, for god so loved the world that he gave his only forgotten so that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everylasting life Luke 54: Command fire to come down from heaven and destroy them? And a flag (doesn't matter the country) isn't aloud to touch the ground, it's disrespectful. I am not a psychiatrist but I have heard that people with strong feelings against homo-sexuality are in many cases themselves, latent homo-sexuals. We also undertake many other activities for our LBGT community including writing articles and letters like the one you didn’t understand. :). When the disciples wanted to call down fire on mockers, Jesus told them they didn't even know what spirit they were of. az. People need to realize that someone is ALWAYS trying to manipulate them for some cause that is less than perfect or just flat out WRONG... they need to learn to use logic and critical thinking to see through these charades and manipulations. mabie guide them in a less hateful path in this reality called life? God is Beauty. If these ignorant ppl actually did a little research on the other side of homosexuality they would realize that it's found in species of the animal kingdom!!! He is unjust! I am just speechless after seeing something like that, I feel so sorry for the kids. The most interesting character in this documentary is actually the journalist himself; you can see that he is uncertain of his own beliefs. THOUSAND young men have been executed in the Islamic Republic There is no way to conclusively prove that animals or reptiles are "homosexual". I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Is it possible for a parent to rejoice in the death of their child? I simply stated that attacking those who believe in God is the same type of bigotry the Phelps family exhibits. And he loves me. I just wish they could go out in the world and then decide on what they believe. funny all these people might be going to hell because they read the bilble wrong i hope they know that god hates the sin not the sinner these people r y christianity is mostly frowned upon i will forever hate these people its funny they only target homosexual when the preacher might a hypicritical homosexual himself. As an Independent, Fundamental Baptist, I have to say: THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTTERS! I am going to pick a few holes in your comment. He is just! I am not certain about my pychoanalysis at all. Don't forget: Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19). All because Fred Phelps sr. decided to preach his own calvinistic brand of christianity stating that the world is going to burn just because people tolerate homosexuality. and they said the jews killed jesus not the romans. Personally, I'd play Bronski Beat full blast during daylight hours, but then, I love that band! Yeah, even at a funeral. be a good person and raise your children to be good people...love help and care for others...plain and simple! Meditation and Prayer are the only way to salvation. then why the f*ck is Louis busy trying to pick fights and arguments with them???? One of the things Fred insists is that all of the Phelps get an education and with that education they get the ability to earn a living and donate their checks to the church BUT they learn of other things in the world and the ability to earn a living outside of that church if they leave and many have. We It's that simple. First, I assume you are talking about Fred Phelps Sr. Second, all of the Phelps women are college educated. Like her father, a full hatred of fags, is, in their eyes, something that pushes them further away from the events that have occurred in their past, and their weak attempt at trying to pretend that none of it happened. Do you know who else does that? She has a sort of cunning manner...Certainly has the courage of her f'ed-up convictions. She also happens to be the one who preaches so loudly about the moral shortcomings of young folks, women in particular, and yet had a child out of wedlock herself, making her one of the biggest Phelpocrities in the bunch. John responded, “Master, we saw someone driving out demons in Your name, and we tried to stop him because he does not follow us.” “Don’t stop him,” Jesus told him, “because whoever is not against you is for you.” — Luke 9:49-50. Otherwise what good are the bibles? These people are disgusting. God hates fags and all proud sinners (Psalm 5:5). What you wrote is probably one of the most beautiful messages I've ever heard come from someone describing themselves as Christian. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come” (Matthew 12:31-32 NKJV).". He seems like a sensible man. I'm not gay (so far as I know...), but I think that's just a fabulous idea. she said. 6. I don't think praying is their problem. Finally, on a national security issue, I find their desire and clear enjoyment that those around them will die in hell for eternity as very disturbing, and I would recommend homeland security to monitor these people. The WB Church has the exact same views just centered on the Bible and its literal interpretation and yea they dont kill. What was the point of this documentary? Religion is never the problem...the individuals are the problem. And this family is teaching their children the same thing. )(Indoctrinated) Sad that God's message and love have been distorted this way.They are what gives Christianity a bad name and fodder for the fringe extremists of other religions. The forgoing is not opinion. Azilda, that I am of the same species as the likes of you is the embarrassment. for this same sick reason it is worse for and to people in not only eastern europa and russia to live a normal life being what they are and like to be with the irony of pedhophilia instead of being criminal and for this reason converted to christianity and/or islam fascists according to jewry : booze dope prostitution. I do not agree with the way the Westboro Baptists Church is going about teaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ it is completely opposite of how Jesus taught it in the Bible! I think this is the only time I have ever, or will ever, agree with Sean Hannity. I'd like to see them trash talk the Islamic religion. what if i believe that i have to sacrifice a child every week to my god, because its my religion... is the law gonna let it slide??? Do unto others as you'd like to be done unto you. I'm glad my God has mercy. Not Jesus. The interviewer doesn't seem to get it. Over time the word propaganda has acquired a negative association, based largely on its use during World War II by the Nazi Party in Germany. Instead of following suit, one can only pray that when it is time for them to go their separate ways which will happen some day they will have the good grace to forgive their actions that they are doing today. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. They obviously have not read the Bible and understood what it stands for....the 2 Greatest commandments - Love God and Love your neighbour. This is not yet Heaven. I do genuinely hope you are having a good Wednesday, though and may your week be just as good or better. The word FAG is NOT anywhere in the Bible! 19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day. We can not control our thoughts. Religion has killed to halt all sciences that could disprove their God. John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. Kind of apparent Gramps Fred is a closeted homosexual, I get that but he must be one hell of a control freak too forcing his family to perpetuate his guilt. See, what you and the majority of modern new-age Christians are doing is quite like what the WBC do themselves - cherry picking the 'good' and convenient bits out of archaic bibles and adapting them in order that they fit to your shifting version of reality. They're both educated and living in the modern world and yet they're completely brainwashed. Congratulations, you are the first and only person who has missed the entire point of my letter Westboro Baptist Church. az. Every adult member of the Phelps Clan has a college education or some advanced education past high school. Feet Eagar to Run to Evil: Going to places you know God isn’t in the middle of: TV, books, friends, parties, drugs, booze. I suspect it will be one day. Louis Theroux clashes with Brit preaching 'God hates UK and gays' in BBC Westboro Baptist Church documentary. Fred Phelps, the Westboro Baptist Church, those who oppose it, and those who chose to leave it all behind. I'm so sad at how lost people are :/. People should have enough confidence in themselves that they have enough goodness and morality to lead them to the right choices without referring to any one or anything else. He would ask questions to bring out what was there. And yes,America is doomed. I feel so bad for these people... All they know is hate :(. i write about my OtO Geography No! i think it might be cause its really really funny. On the "rules" there was "dont lie" Also they've been around for a while now and don't seem to be attracting new blood, in fact they're losing people. he KNOWS god is god and by definition can not fail. AND SAVIOR. It's that simple. You may be right about Shirley being able to hold the organization together and keep it going after Fred dies, but I hope you aren't. A very sad story. and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17). Its was very interesting to watch. I would throw a party when those sinister people die. And do not need any praying from your vague authority to make me try to believe anything Charles. Brother Tom, this sect does not care about such things as what is written or implied in the Bible. If this is applied to the universe as a whole, there is no point "A", so we add up all the histories that satisfy the no-boundary condition and end at the universe we observe today. Phelps isn't the only young person to break free from the Westboro Baptist Church. These people are not human; god loves everyone and says to love not hate. Have you found something you maintian as a personal principle? It's very late in Asia! .. Oh, sinner man .. Where you gonna run to? Louis Theroux: Surviving America’s Most Hated Family is a 1x60’ for BBC Two. Maybe we should vote on a constitutional amendment that says “no seriously, separation of church and state. His children and their friends must have stories to tell of their continuous abuse - both physical and emotional. wow, people do insane things in Gods name That's just what I believe.". Did they ever stop to think that the kid getting pelted with a soda was a sign from God telling them to stop picketing? They are not that far away from hard-shelled orthadox fire and brimstone small church preachers. He told them to 'go and sin no more' but in a loving way, not in the way this lady is doing it. They go to a scene where every single person attending that funeral is honoring someones life and greiving... obviously they are going to be in a horrified state when they hear these moron inbred retard "god" lovers acting like they even know who the person was or that they are in "hell". Repent or perish (Luke 13:3). But when someone tries to hurt his family or his followers, he isn't happy about it at all. I should say, "conducts themselves"! Especially "Don't you think that the way you're conducting yourselves may be turning people OFF to Christianity" Is it the carpets fault? (see 03:50) Her family is doooomed ..... Man this guy must be a saint to put up with them for a extended amount of time over 5 min. These kids have no sense of right or wrong, and if they are bombarded with these false idols, their right may be twisted and deformed. They give a bad name to people who believe in god, making everyone seem like a brainwashed idiots. It was a real eye opener. there will always be some people out there who have nobody. Many of the Phelps are attorneys and Fred Phelps Senior was once an attorney. Is it the waters fault? They are prisoners in their own brainwashed minds, that's what they are. You are wasting your and our time! I simply say that I don't believe in fairies. I’m frankly surprised given the Phelps’ clan consistent attacks on military families and returning vets, fire, police and first responders that no one has yet rid America of this turbulent priest and his family. 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